Thursday, February 19, 2009

List of Death and Abused Malaysian Indians by police. Malaysiakini



List of Abuse and Death of Malaysian Indian From 1998-2009

1.S.KuganTortured and Beaten to Death

Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
S.Kugan 22 20 Jan 2009 Jan 15. Kugan Ananthan was detained. Crime : suspected involvement in an international car theft syndicate.
Jan 20th 2009. Kugan a/l Ananthan, 22 year old guy, after being detained for 5days, was found dead. DEAD in a Subang Jaya police station. Selangor police chief immediately claimed that it was a sudden death, and tried linking it with asthma. His family says he has no asthmatic problem. Pictures revealed injuries to his body, fresh wounds

2.Malaysian police poured boiling water on B Prabakar

Name Age Date Circumstance of Torture and Abuse
B Prabakar 27 December 23, 2008 27years old car park attendant has alleged that he was tortured during interrogation by police who beat him with a rubber hose and splashed boiling hot water on his body.
B Prabakar said he was picked up from his work place at Sri Hartamas on Dec 23 and taken for interrogation at the Brickfields police district headquarters where he was repeatedly beaten, kicked and stepped-on by at least 10 police personnel.

3. N. Logeswaran 10-year-old , abused by Malaysian Police in Police station.

Name Age Date Circumstance of Tortured and Abuse
N. Logeswaran 10. August 5, 2008
The ethnic Indian mother of a 10-year-old boy has accused the police of torturing her son, slapping and choking him and scalding his leg while questioning him for allegedly stealing his school teacher's purse. The incident occurred Aug 5 after N. Logeswaran was taken to a police station at Kampar near Ipoh in Perak state, even though the purse, money (containing RM 700 - roughly $200) and other documents were not found on the boy.
Parti Sosialis Malaysia (PSM) deputy chairman M. Sarasvathy, who took up his case, submitted a memorandum to the Perak police Tuesday alleging that the police, in order to get the boy to confess, slapped him on his face while two policemen tried to choke him.
"They even tried to melt some plastic on the boy's private parts," said Sarasvathy, outside the Perak police contingent headquarters, The Star newspaper said Wednesday.
Logeswaran's mother P. Santhi said her son suffered head injuries as a result of the police beating.

"The police also took out a parang (dagger) and a pistol to threaten the boy," Saraswathy said, adding that Logeswaran was also handcuffed and locked up in a dark room.
"He is now traumatised by the incident," said Sarasvathy, adding that he suffered injuries on the back of his head, wrists and leg after the ordeal.
Logeswaran was picked up from his school at 12.30 p.m. last Wednesday and was only released at 10.45 p.m. the same day. His parents were not informed about the incident.
He was taken to the Kampar Hospital at 11 p.m. after complaining of headaches and after he started vomiting, said Sarasvathy.

He was transferred to Hospital Raja Permaisuri Bainun at midnight for observation and was discharged Monday.

4. 24 years old Mariammah was manhandled by Malaysian Police

Name Age Date Circumstance of Torture and Abuse
Mariammah 24 April 17, 2008 IPOH (17/4) – A young girl launched police report against a Police Officer and other Police Personnel's on the complaint that she was manhandled, usage of vulgar words and sexually harassed while she was under investigation at the Police Station at Ipoh . The 24 years old women stated in her report that the police picked up her from Balai Police Menglembu on the 02/04/08 at 02.00am after she made a Police report stating her motorbike no: AGJ 102 was missing. Mariammah, a mother of 2, was remanded for 2 weeks to help on a murder case on which, usage of the missing motorbike in the murder case.
The Policeman who came with other male officers arrested her and took her with police car with male police officers only. She was remanded till 13/04/08 and the Police officers started to torture her since 05/04/08 till 08/04/08 for no reason. Mariamah also alleged that the Policeman also kicked her back and hips several times and blindfolded her when this beating was taking place. Also she says the police forced her to admit that her husband was involved in the murder case which happens few days earlier before her arrest. The Police arrested and forced her to agree with the accusation. After few hours another policeman came and tortured her verbally and told her she would be striped naked if did not agreed.
Soon after she was released on 13/04/08, she came to Ipoh Barat office to inform the incident and asked Mr.Kulasegaran (DAP - Ipoh Barat) for help. Mr.Kula, with his secretary, took her to lodge a police report and at that time, the computers were all down! After half an hour when a senior police officer came, the system was on again.

5.Indian Youth Tortured In Rawang Police Station

Naame Age Date Circumstance of Torture and Abuse
2 Indian Youth
January 6, 2008 DATED 6FEB08, WHERE 2 MALAYSIAN INDIANS WERE TORTURED WHILE IN CUSTODY AT RAWANG POLICE SATTION. THEY WERE ASKED TO DRINK POLICEMEN'S URINE AND ALSO TOLD TO LICK THE TOILET BOWL IN THE POLICE STATION. HINDRAF ( POLICE WATCH HAVE BEEN HIGHLITING THIS ALL THIS WHILE) NOW IT HAS COME TO OPEN AIR. THE 2 INDIAN SUSPECTS WERE WARNED NOT TO REVEAL WHAT HAPPEN IN CUSTODY.

6.ISA Detainee Sanjeev Kumar Tortured Brutaly by Malaysian Police

Name Age Date Circumstance of Torture and Abuse
Sanjeev Kumar Krishnan 25 March 21, 2008

Sanjeev detained under ISA and physically, sexually and emotionally tortured.

An initial police report had been filed by Sanjeev Kumar at the Taiping Police Station in April 2008, after he was warded at the Taiping Hospital upon receiving such brutal treatment in the camp, which included being forced to drink urine, eat stale food and being subjected to physical abuse such as being sodomized by a broom.

The first report seems to be left unheeded. Sanjeev is now semi-paralysed and wheel chair bound, and has still not received the required medical attention.

7.M Vijaya Varman 19 year old beaten in police custody

Name Age Date Circumstance of Torture and Abuse
M Vijaya Varman 19 January 4, 2007 Factory worker 19 year old M Vijaya Varman was rudely awakened in his home in Kuala Selangor by seven policemen at 2am, the morning of Jan 4. Despite the lack of a warrant, he was arrested in connection with the theft of electrical cables.

The cops handcuffed him, dragged him into the van, drove around and simply put, proceeded to beat the shit out of him over a period of four hours.

Excerpts from his police report:

Tangan saya telah digari dibelakang ibubapa saya telah bertanya kepada mereka sebab saya di tahan tetapi mereka enggan menjawab soalan tersebut. Kemudiannya saya terus dibawa menaiki sebuah van berwarna putih semasa didalam perjalanan keluar daripada kawasan perumahan taman seri Kuantan, saya telah dipukul oleh CID-CID tersebut.

Van tersebut telah berhenti berhampiran dengan sebuah pub/karaoke di pasir panjang. Kemudian mereka terus membelasah saya dan menyoal saya di mana kawan-kawan saya yang lain yang telah dituduh mencuri kabel. Mereka terus mendesak sambil memukul saya supaya mengakui perbuatan tersebut. Selepas itu saya dibawa ke lokasi lain dan mereka terus memukul saya.

8. 19 year old M Vijaya Varman beaten in police custody


Name Age Date Circumstance of Torture and Abuse
M Vijaya Varman 19 January 4, 2007 Factory worker 19 year old M Vijaya Varman was rudely awakened in his home in Kuala Selangor by seven policemen at 2am, the morning of Jan 4. Despite the lack of a warrant, he was arrested in connection with the theft of electrical cables.

The cops handcuffed him, dragged him into the van, drove around and simply put, proceeded to beat the shit out of him over a period of four hours.

Excerpts from his police report:

Tangan saya telah digari dibelakang ibubapa saya telah bertanya kepada mereka sebab saya di tahan tetapi mereka enggan menjawab soalan tersebut. Kemudiannya saya terus dibawa menaiki sebuah van berwarna putih semasa didalam perjalanan keluar daripada kawasan perumahan taman seri Kuantan, saya telah dipukul oleh CID-CID tersebut.

Van tersebut telah berhenti berhampiran dengan sebuah pub/karaoke di pasir panjang. Kemudian mereka terus membelasah saya dan menyoal saya di mana kawan-kawan saya yang lain yang telah dituduh mencuri kabel. Mereka terus mendesak sambil memukul saya supaya mengakui perbuatan tersebut. Selepas itu saya dibawa ke lokasi lain dan mereka terus memukul saya.



9. Disabled Murugan Rajoo, 36 forced to urinate in pants by Selayang Municipal Council Malaysian

Name Age Date Circumstance of Torture and Abuse
Murugan Rajoo 36 January 4, 2007 Murugan Rajoo, 36, was born without legs. On Jan 4, he was detained by the Selayang Municipal Council for over an hour, and forced to urinate in his pants.
Sequence of events: Mr. Murugan (front row in light blue shirt with hands raised) is a petty trader without a license who claims he first applied for one about 3 years ago. On Jan 4, his motorcyle-stall was confiscated by Selayang Municipal Council (MPS) officers, leaving Mr. Murugan stranded by the roadside.
Later that day, he went to reclaim his motorcycle from the MPS Rawang branch. There, he was confined by enforcement officers for an hour, and when he wanted to use the bathroom, the officers allegedly made fun of his lack of legs and refused to show him where the bathroom was, forcing him to urinate in his pants publicly.
The inhumane suffering and humiliation did not end there.
A number of civil society groups representing the differently able organised a group of 30 individuals to protest this cruel insult to even the most basic human dignity at the MPS headquarters, and prepared a memorandum for council president, Yang Dipertua Zainal Abidin Azim.
When they arrive, the group and its wheelchair bound participants were told they could meet the president, but that he refused to come down and see them; they would have to come up to the 9th floor to see him :|

10. Suresh Kunsekaran Found Hanged With Saree In Women Cell, In Bukit Sentosa Police Station
Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
Suresh Kunasekaran 26 October 27, 2006
Suresh was found dead, hanged with a saree from the window of a lock-up in the Bukit Sentosa police station, Serendah, on Friday about 2pm.

He had been picked up by a patrol car and taken to the station about 11.30am after he was confronted by two policemen on motorcycles near his Taman Teratai home.

His mother, Liew Kiew, 47, said police informed them that a post-mortem at Kuala Kubu Baru Hospital showed he had committed suicide.

She was told of her eldest son's death by police about eight hours later, at midnight. When their questions went unanswered, the family lodged a report at the Hulu Selangor police headquarters on Saturday.

Siva Subramaniam and Suresh 's father, R. Kunasekaran, 47, a dispatch rider, visited the lock-up where Suresh was found hanged.

Siva said: " I want the police to answer several questions.

"How did the saree get into the lock-up? Assuming that the deceased managed to bring the saree into the lock-up, what were the police doing? Aren't they supposed to monitor detainees? Secondly, what could have pushed the deceased to commit suicide only a few hours after being detained?

"Thirdly, why the delay in informing the family of his death?"

11.Ravichandran Ramayah died under Malaysian Police custody


Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
Ravichandran Ramayah 38
December , 2004
In October, Ravichandran Ramayah, 38, died a week after being arrested and detained by the Penang North East Police Station. Family members claimed that medical needs were not provided to Ravichandran even though it was clear that his condition was very poor when he appeared in the Magistrate's Court for remand proceedings.

The deceased then could only walk with the help of family members, causing the magistrate to order that he be brought to a hospital for medical attention. However, the police instead took the deceased to the Penang Prison, where he eventually died. State Police Chief Deputy Commissioner Othman Talib said that no wrongdoing had been committed on the part of the police.

He said that a post-mortem showed that Ravichandran died from natural causes and there were no signs of physical abuse or assault.

12. A. Subramaniam died after allegedly being assaulted by prison officials at the Air Molek Prison in Johor

Name Date Circumstance of Death
A. Subramaniam March 2004
In March, A. Subramaniam died after allegedly being assaulted by prison officials at the Air Molek Prison in Johor. Lawyer Uthayakumar lodged a complaint that Subramaniam, his friend S. Sherma Naidu and two other detainees had been assaulted and tortured by prison officials after they went on a hunger strike to protest against filthy conditions in the prison.

Subramaniam then allegedly fell ill and died while being rushed to the hospital. His parents lodged a police report claiming police brutality and lack of care while under incarceration. However, Johor Police Chief Mukhtar Ismail said police investigations ruled out foul play in the detainee's death.

The prisons department also cleared the Ayer Molek authorities of any wrongdoing, as the findings of a post-mortem report and investigations of an inquiry board said that the youth had died of Septicaemia meningitis.

13. L. Yoges Rao died in police custody

Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
L. Yoges Rao, 22 December, 2003
L. Yoges Rao, 22 years old, died in December 2003 in Sitawan police station, Perak. Following arrest
on drug-related charges he was brought to his home where, ccording to his sister, she saw him beingpunched in his stomach by police.

He was then taken into a locked room from where his sister said she
heard sounds of assaults and cries of pain. About half an hour later he was brought out, vomiting blood. He died the next day. Despite evidence of abuse on Yoges' body, the burial permit said he had died of a stomach ulcer. On receipt of complaints, suhakam initiated an investigation.

Responses from the Perak
deputy head of police included that the deceased vomited in the police station (narcotics office) and was sent to Seri Manjung hospital for treatment. The doctor who treated him was subsequently in charge of the post mortem and certified cause of death as "peritonitis with duodenal ulcer."

14.19 year old student, Vikenes Vesvanathan shoot dead by Malaysian Police

Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
Vikenes Vesvanathan.
October 10 , 2003 Vikenes Vesvanathan, a 19 year-old sixth-form student, and two of his friends, Katiravan Tamilchelvam (25) and Puvaneswaran Subramanium (24), were shot dead by police in Nilai, Negri Sembilan on 10 October 2003. Police claimed that the men had been staking out a bank
in preparation for a robbery, and that when their car was followed by police they sped away, crashed, and on alighting refused to surrender and opened fire on the police.

The police stated they returned fire killing all three men, whom they claimed were linked to at least 20 cases of
armed robbery. Police reportedly cordoned off the area where they were shot before the shooting, and reported that guns and bullets were found in the car.
Vikenes' family disputed the police version of events insisting that their son, a high school student, had no criminal record and was not, as alleged, a "marksman and a weapons expert". According to a police report lodged by a friend of Vikenes who saw his body in the mortuary,
there were two gunshot wounds to Vikenes' chest, but his shirt (which the police refused to release) had no bullet holes in it. He also claimed that there were bruise marks on his face, legs and back. In addition, the brother of Puvaneswaran stated "there were about four or five
red bruises on the back of his [brother's] body which looked like cane marks. His lips were also swollen and his nose bleeding."
A post-mortem report found that there were two gunshot wounds to Vikenes' upper chest. In findings that increased his relatives' mistrust of the police version of events, the
report stated that the wounds showed bullets had exited the body, suggesting that the firing may have taken place at close range.

15.Ulaganathan Muniandy 19, died while in detention in Kajang police station, Malaysia

Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
Ulaganathan Muniandy 19 July 21, 2003
Ulaganathan Muniandy (19 year old) an Emergency Ordinance detainee was detained at Kajang Police Station since 12 May 2003 and died on 21 July 2003 at Kajang Police Station. According to the Kajang hospital, the cause of death "cannot be determined", while family members of the deceased suspect foul play.
According to Ulaganathan's mother - Tamil Selwee a/p Ramasamy, she found that there were few bruises on Ulaganathan's body, including swollen eyes, bruises around the region of eyes and swelling on the legs during the visit she made to the Police detention centre.
When the family, with the help of SUARAM, Malaysian Bar Council and volunteer lawyer, filed a civil suit, the Attorney General finally requested for an inquest to be carried out - 4 years after the death.

16. Kannan Kanthan, 45, died in Batu Pahat Police Station in Johor

Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
Kannan Kanthan 45 February 28, 2003
In March, Kannan Kanthan, 45, died in Batu Pahat Police Station in Johor after being arrested three days earlier by the police. The deceased's nephew, Sri Rajesh Kanna Viladan, said that when he saw Kannan in court a few days earlier, he was in good health. At the mortuary, Sri Rajesh identified the body and claimed that he found injuries on the deceased—a swollen neck and injuries on the left eye and right hand. Fourteen persons were arrested in relation to the death including three police personnel. Seven of them were later charged with causing the death of Kannan in Cell 'C' lockup. In addition, a police lance corporal Azmi Harun was charged with abetting the five by transferring the deceased from Cell 'F' to Cell 'C' and allowing him to be assaulted by the detainees. The two other police personnel were subjected disciplinary actions.

17. P. Lingeswaran beaten with rubber hose by Malaysian police
Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
P. Lingeswaran 19 February 20, 2003 In February, police personnel were alleged to have beaten P. Lingeswaran together with another 19-year-old, P. Poobalan, while the two were being detained at the Subang Jaya Police Station in Selangor. According to a police report, the duo was arrested and blindfolded at the police station before they were beaten with rubber hoses. The complainant said: "I saw that Poobalan had red bruises of about 6-inches long on his back and his right hand. There were also swellings on his head, feet and the soles of his feet. As for Lingeswaran, there were (similar) bruises on both his shoulders." The two youths were subsequently released by the Petaling Jaya Magistrate's Court but were re-arrested the same day by the Subang Jaya police. Lawyer Uthayakumar said the two were re-arrested while they were seeking medical treatment for their injuries at the Universiti Hospital . The hospital staff apparently notified the police, who came and removed the two back to the Subang Jaya Police Station. The police later suddenly brought the two youth back to the hospital's police booth and released them at about 2 a.m. Malaysiakini.com reported that when it contacted the Subang Jaya Police Station, a police officer who declined to be named said that there were no records that the two youths were held during the past two days at the station.

18.Mohanan Pillai shot dead by Malaysian Police

Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
Mohanan Pillai
September 6, 2002 The widow Jeyanthi A/P Sinniah (32) who was six (6) month pregnant at that time in her police report said that the deceased telephoned his wife on 6/09/2002 at about 12.00 pm informing her that he was on his. way home. At 3.00 pm received a telephone call from her husband's friend informing her that her husband had been shot dead by the police in bad faith and with mala-fide in the "shoot to kill policy by the police". The widow in her police report Kelana Jaya NO.5203-02 dated.7/09/2002 alleged that the story by the police that her husband shot at the police and the police shot back and her husband was killed as a result as "cerita rekaan polis" (police fictious story).

19.Anthony A/L Ponnusamy is shot dead by Malaysian Police

Name Age Date Circumstance of Death
Anthony A/L Ponnusamy
August 24, 2002 The widow Vasanthi A/P Perumal (25) who was five (5) moths pregnant at that time in her police report No.1211/02 (Mantin) said that her husband bought her breakfast and left for work on 23/08/2002. From 12.00 pm on 23/08/2002 right up to the next day morning she kept calling him persistently on the phone but to no avail. The widow alleges that the newspaper stories about her husband being involved in guns for hire, extortion, gangster isu etc was false news published and was a prelude / justification for killing her husband.

She further alleged that the police pre-planned her husband's murder and does nor believe the police's version that her husband was behaving suspiciously, waiting to hijack a lorry, shot at the police the police returned fire and her husband was killed. She furhter said that her husband would not be stupid to shoot when a group of (armed) policemen supposedly cornered him. Despite a request in the said police reports an Inquest is yet to be.

Tuesday, February 17, 2009

Legal Issue on Contract Law in Malaysia. Malaysiakini

Legal Issue on Contract Law in Malaysia - Good for us to know


Do you notice that most of the time, the receipt / invoice you received from the merchant carries this exclusion clause or similarly worded statement: "Goods sold are not returnable" or "No refund once sold".

Please remember that : " As long as your goods is purchased for home use and not for business ( i.e. to be resold), the above exclusion clause is VOID.

That means, as long as the good is defective, regardless of what is worded, you CAN get back all your money spent . You do not have to accept a repair on the good or an exchange. You CAN ask for a refund.. AND you are LEGALLY right and entitled to!

And most of the time the merchant will refuse to return you your money.

You can threaten the merchant with four words: "SEE YOU IN COURT!"

The court here refers to the Small Claims Tribunal Court . Any goods which is worth RM25,000 and below can apply to this Court.

However, you don't have to tell them what court! All you have to pay is RM10 admin fee and the loser (the merchant) will have to refund you the money PLUS the admin fee!

I have seen that most educated people are cowed by such unfair wordings (which includes a few of my friends).

Pls try not to let the merchant fleece you the next time you have defective goods.

You can file this On the 16th floor of Putra Place (The Mall opposite Putra World Trade Centre) . The form cost RM5.00. The Tribunal will settle within 2 months period.

Tribunal Tuntutan Pengguna Malaysia ,
Tingkat 16, Putra Place ,
100, Jalan Putra,
50622 KUALA LUMPUR
Tel: 03 - 40492300 / 40424181 Fax: 03 - 40424259

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

THE DAY NAJIB KILLED ZAKARIA DEROS . Malaysiakini

I don't know how true is this or if this piece of information credible. But i received this in my mail today. So i decided to share it with everyone. I wouldn't be surprise with Najib's intention because there is a lot of speculation about his fathers role in May 13th 1969. After March 8th 2008, there were many racial issues stirred up. Some resulting to innocent people being blame and jailed for no reason. So maybe there is some truth to this. Malaysia Boleh!
THE DAY NAJIB KILLED ZAKARIA DEROS

1.On March 8th 2008, Malaysia's opposition parties had won unexpected victories in the states of Kedah, Penang, Perak, Selangor and PAS maintained Kelantan
2.The BN was in serious trouble and could not believe that the economic powerhouses of Penang and especially Selangor had fallen.
3.Zakaria Deros, the assemblyman who was largely faulted for Selangor's fall together with Khir Toyo was informed of an emergency UMNO meeting on the night of March 10th 2008 at Najib's house.
4.However on arrival, Zakaria was surprised to see that there was no one there except for him, Najib and his bodyguards. "Where are the rest?" Zakaria asked. "This is a confidential meeting between the both of us only" Najib replied
5.Najib, then Defence Minister, came straight to the point. Remember 13th May 1969, the incident that my father was involved in? I want you to start a similar incident in Klang. I will call in the army and impose emergency rule afterwards. If you agree, you will be rewarded amply; otherwise you will pay heavily for your corrupt deeds and for the fall of Selangor.
6.Zakaria in his loud and gruff voice not only made it clear that he will not be a party to a riot in Klang but also barked at Najib that he knows well that Rosmah pulled the trigger to kill Altantunya and Najib Oked the C4 of the body.
7.Zakaria further screamed at Najib that he will expose this to the public.
8.The enraged Najib instructed his bodyguards who set upon Zakaria and beat him up till he became unconscious eventually suffocating him by strangling and killing him.
9.The well oiled team covered up the entire incident as Zakaria having a heart attack at just after midnight March 11th 2008.
10.His body was quickly brought back to his mansion in Klang, and sent off for burial in Malacca by late morning March 11th 2008.
11.Corrupted to the core though Zakaria was, he saved the people of Klang from falling for Najib's evil calling although his sons did try to start an incident unsuccessfully in Telok Gong. Zakaria however paid a heavy price. His own death. If his body was excavated, apart from the strangulation, the injuries include multiple rib fractures, punctured lung and a possible a liver tear.
12.The depth of cruelty and evil that both Najib and Rosmah bear is unknown to many Malaysians. The country is really entering a very dangerous period of its history. UMNO's culture since Razak, has been that the end justifies the means. Malaysians will now have to decide how bloody this end is going to be.

Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Khairy Hitler in the making. Malaysiakini



The more we let this guy go on the more hatred he sow the hearts of the young Malays.
One day we will regret having kept quiet during all this time when this madman slowly gains control of the easily influenced Malay communities. His hidden intentions have failed to be seen by the common minds. With Pakatan Rakyat loosing their ground in Perak things are starting to get messy.
I have always condemned defection as a way to form a new government. But i don't think Anwar is all to blame for bringing this culture. When BN lost this 5 states they would have already set a strategy to get back this states in any way crooked then to wait for the next GE.
So it was just matter of time. I'm actually surprise it took them so long. When the initial case of the 2 PR MP's getting caught for corruption was the signs of BN at work laying down their ground work for this take over.
The next state they would hit is Kedah with already a state assembly person for Bukit Selambau Mr. V Arumugam quitting after being pressured by BN to crossover.
The blessing behind all this dirty work carried out by BN is that their true nature and culture is coming out. People get to see how corrupted and dirty their entire establishment is.
Malaysia should only have 2 major parties. An alliance can never work. Especially when it is based from different schools of thought. You can never strike a balance, especially when you have religious party involved. I truly hope the Opposition will one day stand only as a singular party with a common goal and policy. With an Alliance there will always be a worry of loosing power and compromise their values to stay in position with their partners in the Alliance.